SOC. : “ Then you have not answered

SOC. : “ Then you have not answered my question, my friend. I did not ask you what same thing happens to be both holy and unholy; yet what is dear to the gods is hateful to the gods, it seems. And so, Euthyphro, it would not be surprising if what you are now doing in punishing your father were dear to Zeus, but hateful to Cronos and Uranus, and loved by Hephaestus, but hateful to Hera, and if any of the other gods disagree about it, the same will be true of them too. ”
เมื่อพิจารณาต่อไปก็เกิดคำถามตามมาว่า Holyนั้นคือความยุติธรรมใช่หรือไม่ ซึ่งSOCRATESตั้งคำถามต่อEUTHYPHROไว้ว่า “ ทุกๆ สิ่ง ซึ่งยุติธรรมจะต้องบริสุทธ์ด้วยหรือ หรือHolyทั้งมวลจะต้องยุติธรรม และมิใช่ยุติธรรมทั้งมวลจะต้องบริสุทธิ์หมด เพียงบริสุทธิ์บ้าง เป็นอื่นบ้าง” ดังเช่นบทสนทนาดังต่อไปนี้
SOC. : “ I mean exactly the opposite of what the poet meant when he said that he was “unwilling to insult Zeus, the Creator, who made all things; for where there is fear there is also reverence.” I disagree with him. Shall I tell you why? ”
SOC. : “ Where there is reverence, however, there is also fear. For if anyone stands in reverence and awe of something. ”
ทั้งหมดนี้จึงเป็นประเด็นและเกิดการโต้เถียงระหว่างSOCRATESและEUTHYPHROขึ้น แสดงให้เห็นว่า SOCRATESจะอธิบายเหตุผลยึดหลักตามจริง เห็นได้จริง เกิดขึ้นจริง ส่วนEUTHYPHROนั้นจะให้เหตุผลโดยการอ้างถึงพระเจ้า เทวดา ซึ่งเป็นที่จับต้องมองเห็นไม่ได้ เมื่อEUTHYPHROเริ่มเเสดงความคิดโดยเอ่ยถึงคำใดคำหนึ่งออกมา SOCRATESก็มักจะขอให้EUTHYPHROแสดงความหมายหรือให้นิยามของคำๆนั้น เพื่อเป็นการแก้ข้อสงสัยบางประการให้กับตัวเขาเอง SOCRATESมักจะเป็นผู้ถามคู่สนทนาเสมอว่านิยามหรือความหมายของคำๆนี้คืออะไรจนในบางครั้งพวกเขาก็พบว่า คำนิยามและความหมายที่พวกเขาแสดงออกมานั้นบกพร่อง และSOCRATESก็เสนอคำนิยามที่ดีกว่าขึ้นมา และการสนทนาก็เป็นแบบนี้ไปเรื่อยๆและหาความหมายที่แท้จริงของคำที่สงสัยไม่ได้ ผู้ที่คิดว่าตนนั้นรู้ดี แต่สุดท้ายแล้วตนกลับไม่รู้จริง และไม่ว่าจะสนทนาในเรื่องใด ส่วนมากจะ stop โดยการไม่รู้ความหมายและคำนิยามที่แท้จริงของคำที่พูดถึง
เมื่อEUTHYPHROตอบว่าศาสนธรรมคือความกตัญญูรู้คุณ แต่ความกตัญญูรู้คุณเป็นสิ่งที่มีประโยชน์หรือมีคุณค่าสำหรับเทพเจ้า (เป็นสิ่งซึ่งเป็นที่รักของเทพเจ้า) เพราะความกตัญญูเป็นประโยชน์ที่เทพเจ้าจะได้รับจากการที่เราให้ของกำนัลแก่เทพเจ้า แต่บทสนทนาตอนต้นของยูไธโฟรกับSOCRATESได้ข้อสรุปว่าศาสนธรรมไม่ใช่สิ่งซึ่งเป็นที่รักของเทพเจ้า [ศาสนธรรมกับสิ่งซึ่งเป็นที่รักของเทพเจ้าไม่ใช่สิ่งเดียวกัน เพราะสิ่งหนึ่ง (สิ่งซึ่งเป็นที่รักของเทพเจ้า) เป็นที่รักได้โดยเหตุแห่งความจริงที่ว่าสิ่งนั้นถูกรัก แต่อีกสิ่งหนึ่ง (ศาสนธรรม) ถูกรักก็เพราะสิ่งนั้นเป็นสิ่งที่น่าที่จะรักโดยตัวของมันเอง] ดังตัวอย่างบทสนทนานี้
SOC. : “ Then it is not because a thing is being seen that the seeing exists; on the contrary, it is in consequence of the seeing that it is being seen. Nor is it because a thing is being led that the leading exists; it is in consequence of the leading that it is being led. Nor is it because a thing is being carried that the carrying exists; it is in consequence of the carrying that it is being carried. Is what I mean quite clear, Euthyphro? I mean this: if something comes to be or something is affected, it is not because it is a thing which is coming to be that the process of coming to be exists, but rather, in consequence of the process of coming to be it is a thing which is coming to be; and it is not because it is affected that the affecting exits, but in consequence of the affecting, the thing is affected. ” กลายเป็นสิ่งที่EUTHYPHROพูดวนกลับที่เดิม และหักล้างกันเอง เมื่อSOCRATESอยากให้เริ่มต้นให้ความหมายศาสนธรรมใหม่ EUTHYPHROก็ปฏิเสธบอกว่าตอนนี้ไม่ว่าง กำลังรีบไปทำเรื่องเกี่ยวกับศาลที่ฟ้องร้องก่อนจึงทำให้SOCRATESไม่ได้คำตอบจากEUTHYPHROในเรื่องที่เขาสงสัยว่า ศาสนธรรมคืออะไร? ทำให้SOCRATESผิดหวังจากEUTHYPHRO โดยตอนแรกSOCRATESเชื่อและคิดว่าจะเรียนรู้ได้ดีจากEUTHYPHRO เช่นนี้ทำให้เห็นว่าแท้จริงแล้ว EUTHYPHROไม่รู้อะไรเลย ยังตอบคำถามตนเองไม่ได้ ยังไม่เข้าใจว่าHolyกับUnholyคืออะไร และความยุติธรรมคืออะไร ที่แย่ไปกว่านั้นคือEUTHYPHROไม่รู้ว่าตนเองไม่รู้อะไร ต่างกับSOCRATESที่รู้ว่าตนเองไม่รู้อะไร ตามที่บอกว่า “ Wisest is she who knows she does not know ” ( คนที่ฉลาดที่สุดคือคนที่รู้ว่าตัวเองไม่รู้อะไร แสวงหาว่าตัวเองไม่รู้อะไร )
ในความคิดของพวกเรา เราคิดว่าขณะที่SOCRATESถามคู่สนทนาถึงคำนิยามความหมายหรือสิ่งต่างๆนั้น เขามักจะสามารถหาจุดอ่อนของฝ่ายตรงข้ามได้แต่ไม่สามารถหาคำตอบที่ถูกต้องได้ แต่EUTHYPHROกลับตอบไม่ตรงคำถาม เลี่ยงคำถามที่ตัวเองไม่สามารถตอบได้หรือไม่เช่นนั้นก็มักจะให้คำตอบที่ผิด แต่ตนยังคงยืนยันว่าเป็นคำตอบที่ถูกและเป็นจริง ดังนั้นทางกลุ่มของเราจึงได้เลือกที่จะเห็นด้วยกับSOCRATES

>>> What about you ?!!!

ผลลัพธ์ (อังกฤษ) 1:

SOC. : " Then you have not answered my question, my friend. I did not ask you what same thing happens to be both holy and unholy; yet what is dear to the gods is hateful to the gods, it seems. And so, Euthyphro, it would not be surprising if what you are now doing in punishing your father were dear to Zeus, but hateful to Cronos and Uranus, and loved by Hephaestus, but hateful to Hera, and if any of the other gods disagree about it, the same will be true of them too. "Considering further the question was followed that is Holy justice, yes or no, which SOCRATES questions: EUTHYPHRO, that "everything that the sut must be Holy services with States or other States must be fair and reasonable to all tongborisut just what else is pure": the following conversations.SOC. : " I mean exactly the opposite of what the poet meant when he said that he was "unwilling to insult Zeus, the Creator, who made all things; for where there is fear there is also reverence." I disagree with him. Shall I tell you why? "SOC. : " Where there is reverence, however, there is also fear. For if anyone stands in reverence and awe of something. "All of these issues and is therefore an argument between SOCRATES and EUTHYPHRO. Shows that SOCRATES would explain why physical principles. See the actual truth. The reason that EUTHYPHRO sections by referring to God. Angel, which is not visible to handle. When the ideas start EUTHYPHRO to mention a word out of SOCRATES, EUTHYPHRO, often asked to represent meaning or definition of the word. In order to solve some questions to his own SOCRATES is often a discussion partner who always questions whether the definition or meaning of this word is anything until sometimes they find that the definitions and meanings that they displayed the defects and SOCRATES offers a definition better than coming up and this was a conversation and find out the true meaning of the word in question is not. Those who think they know better, but don't know its back end and whether any discussions on the subject. Most of the time to stop by I don't know what it means, and the true definition of the word speaks.เมื่อEUTHYPHROตอบว่าศาสนธรรมคือความกตัญญูรู้คุณ แต่ความกตัญญูรู้คุณเป็นสิ่งที่มีประโยชน์หรือมีคุณค่าสำหรับเทพเจ้า (เป็นสิ่งซึ่งเป็นที่รักของเทพเจ้า) เพราะความกตัญญูเป็นประโยชน์ที่เทพเจ้าจะได้รับจากการที่เราให้ของกำนัลแก่เทพเจ้า แต่บทสนทนาตอนต้นของยูไธโฟรกับSOCRATESได้ข้อสรุปว่าศาสนธรรมไม่ใช่สิ่งซึ่งเป็นที่รักของเทพเจ้า [ศาสนธรรมกับสิ่งซึ่งเป็นที่รักของเทพเจ้าไม่ใช่สิ่งเดียวกัน เพราะสิ่งหนึ่ง (สิ่งซึ่งเป็นที่รักของเทพเจ้า) เป็นที่รักได้โดยเหตุแห่งความจริงที่ว่าสิ่งนั้นถูกรัก แต่อีกสิ่งหนึ่ง (ศาสนธรรม) ถูกรักก็เพราะสิ่งนั้นเป็นสิ่งที่น่าที่จะรักโดยตัวของมันเอง] ดังตัวอย่างบทสนทนานี้SOC. : “ Then it is not because a thing is being seen that the seeing exists; on the contrary, it is in consequence of the seeing that it is being seen. Nor is it because a thing is being led that the leading exists; it is in consequence of the leading that it is being led. Nor is it because a thing is being carried that the carrying exists; it is in consequence of the carrying that it is being carried. Is what I mean quite clear, Euthyphro? I mean this: if something comes to be or something is affected, it is not because it is a thing which is coming to be that the process of coming to be exists, but rather, in consequence of the process of coming to be it is a thing which is coming to be; and it is not because it is affected that the affecting exits, but in consequence of the affecting, the thing is affected. ” กลายเป็นสิ่งที่EUTHYPHROพูดวนกลับที่เดิม และหักล้างกันเอง เมื่อSOCRATESอยากให้เริ่มต้นให้ความหมายศาสนธรรมใหม่ EUTHYPHROก็ปฏิเสธบอกว่าตอนนี้ไม่ว่าง กำลังรีบไปทำเรื่องเกี่ยวกับศาลที่ฟ้องร้องก่อนจึงทำให้SOCRATESไม่ได้คำตอบจากEUTHYPHROในเรื่องที่เขาสงสัยว่า ศาสนธรรมคืออะไร? ทำให้SOCRATESผิดหวังจากEUTHYPHRO โดยตอนแรกSOCRATESเชื่อและคิดว่าจะเรียนรู้ได้ดีจากEUTHYPHRO เช่นนี้ทำให้เห็นว่าแท้จริงแล้ว EUTHYPHROไม่รู้อะไรเลย ยังตอบคำถามตนเองไม่ได้ ยังไม่เข้าใจว่าHolyกับUnholyคืออะไร และความยุติธรรมคืออะไร ที่แย่ไปกว่านั้นคือEUTHYPHROไม่รู้ว่าตนเองไม่รู้อะไร ต่างกับSOCRATESที่รู้ว่าตนเองไม่รู้อะไร ตามที่บอกว่า “ Wisest is she who knows she does not know ” ( คนที่ฉลาดที่สุดคือคนที่รู้ว่าตัวเองไม่รู้อะไร แสวงหาว่าตัวเองไม่รู้อะไร ) In their opinion, we We think that as SOCRATES asks a couple meanings or definitions to discuss things. He will be able to find the weaknesses of your opponent, but could not find the correct answer. But the question isn't answered back, EUTHYPHRO. Avoid the questions themselves cannot respond otherwise, they often give the wrong answers, but they still insist that it is an answer that was and is true. Therefore, our group has chosen to agree with SOCRATES. >>> What about you ?!!! <<<

ผลลัพธ์ (อังกฤษ) 2:

SOC.: "Then you have not answered my question, my friend. I did not ask you what same thing happens to be both holy and unholy; yet what is dear to the gods is hateful to the gods, it seems. And so,. Euthyphro, it would not be surprising if what you are now doing in punishing your father were dear to Zeus, but hateful to Cronos and Uranus, and loved by Hephaestus, but hateful to Hera, and if any of the other gods disagree about it,. the same will be true of them too. "
When considering the question whether it was. Holy is fair or not. SOCRATES, which questions the EUTHYPHRO that "everything is fair to be purified with. Or Holy Ensemble will be fair Ensemble will be pure and not fair. Just some fresh As others have "conversations as follows
SOC. : "I mean exactly the opposite of what the poet meant when he said that he was" unwilling to insult Zeus, the Creator, who made ​​all things; for where there is fear there is also reverence. "I disagree with him. Shall I. You tell Why? "
SOC.: "Where there is Reverence, however, there is also Fear. For IF Anyone Stands in Reverence and AWE of Something."
All this is a controversial issue and the SOCRATES and EUTHYPHRO up. Shows SOCRATES explain why it is actually based on the fact that the actual part EUTHYPHRO reasoning by referring to God, angels, which are seen were not tangible. When EUTHYPHRO started my fresh ideas by mentioning the word out. SOCRATES was often asked to EUTHYPHRO meaning or definition of the word. In order to solve some questions of his own. SOCRATES often the caller asked whether the definition or meaning of this word is sometimes until they find it. Definition and meaning that they express is impaired. SOCRATES was proposed definition and better comes up. And the conversation went something like this indefinitely, and the true meaning of the word is not in doubt. Those who think they know it. But back then they did not really. And whether any discussion on the subject, most will stop by to know the meaning and the true definition of the word, talking
on EUTHYPHRO said teaching is very grateful to you. But gratitude is something useful or valuable for God. (Is that which is dear to the gods), because the appreciation of the benefits that can be derived from God to us, the gift of the gods. The dialogue at the beginning of the beauty of Aphrodite with SOCRATES concluded that teaching is not something which is dear to the gods. [Teaching the love of God which is not the same thing. For one thing, (Which is loved by the gods) is loved by reason of the fact that it was love. But one thing (teaching) is loved because it is something that is loved by itself] as an example, this conversation
SOC. : "Then it is not because a thing is being seen that the seeing exists; on the contrary, it is in consequence of the seeing that it is being seen. Nor is it because a thing is being led that the leading exists; it is. in consequence of the leading that it is being led. Nor is it because a thing is being carried that the carrying exists; it is in consequence of the carrying that it is being carried. Is what I mean quite clear, Euthyphro? I mean this. : if something comes to be or something is affected, it is not because it is a thing which is coming to be that the process of coming to be exists, but rather, in consequence of the process of coming to be it is a thing which. is coming to be; and it is not because it is affected that the affecting exits, but in consequence of the affecting, the thing is affected. "What became of EUTHYPHRO talk back. And cancel each SOCRATES when I started teaching a new meaning. EUTHYPHRO he refused, saying that now is not empty. Am I going to do about the court case before making SOCRATES EUTHYPHRO not get an answer from the subject, he suspected. Teaching is? Make SOCRATES disappointed by EUTHYPHRO First, SOCRATES believe and think to learn well from EUTHYPHRO. Indeed, this is only the beginning. EUTHYPHRO nothing They do not get the answer Still do not understand what is Holy and Unholy. And justice is Worse than that is EUTHYPHRO not know that they know nothing. SOCRATES different to know that they did not know what to say, "Wisest is she who knows she does not know" (the most intelligent person is one who knows himself knows nothing. Seek himself knew nothing )
, the idea of us. We think the SOCRATES interlocutor asked to define the meaning or something different. He was always able to find the weaknesses of their opponents but could not find the correct answer. But EUTHYPHRO back evasive. Avoid questions that can not be answered or not, it will always give you the wrong answer. But he continued to insist that the answer is right and true. So our group has chosen to agree with SOCRATES >>> What About You? !!! <<<.

ผลลัพธ์ (อังกฤษ) 3:

SOC. "Then you have not answered, my question my friend. I did not ask you what same thing happens to be both holy and. Unholy; yet what is dear to the gods is hateful to, the gods it seems. And, so Euthyphro it would, not be surprising if. What you are now doing in punishing your father were dear to Zeus but hateful, to Cronos and Uranus and loved by Hephaestus,,, But hateful, to HeraAnd if any of the other gods disagree about it the same, will be true of them too. "
.The next question followed. Holy is justice? The SOCRATES question EUTHYPHRO that "every thing which justice must innocent? Or Holy sisters must be fair.Only pure, else "as the following conversations
.SOC. "I mean exactly the opposite of what the poet meant when he said that he was" unwilling to insult Zeus the Creator,,, Who made all things; for where there is fear there is also reverence. "I disagree with him. Shall I tell you why?"
SOC.? : "Where there, is reverence however there is, also fear. For if anyone stands in reverence and awe of something."
.All this is a point and controversy between SOCRATES EUTHYPHRO up and show that SOCRATES explain the reasons based on the truth. See the real happened, the EUTHYPHRO to reasoning by referring to God, the angels.When EUTHYPHRO began to show the idea by mentioning it's one out. SOCRATES often ask EUTHYPHRO show meaning or definition of that word. In order to solve some doubt to himself.Definition and meaning they expressed that impaired. And the SOCRATES offered better definition. And a discussion is to keep this up and find the true meaning of the word is no doubt who think their know.Discussion on any subject, and whether it is mostly stop by don't know the meaning of true words and definitions about
.When EUTHYPHRO said bacteria is gratitude But the gratitude is something useful or valuable for the gods. (is the thing which is loved by the gods).But the dialogue at the beginning of Yu Euthyphro to SOCRATES concluded that teaching is not the thing which is loved by God. [teaching with the thing which is loved by the gods are not the same thing, because one thing (which is the darling of the gods).But the one thing (Teaching) is love because that is what it is to love itself] as an example dialogue
.SOC. "Then it is not because a thing is being seen that the seeing exists; on, the contrary it is in consequence of. The seeing that it is being seen. Nor is it because a thing is being led that the leading exists; it is in consequence of. The leading that it is being led. Nor is it because a thing is being carried that the carrying exists;It is in consequence of the carrying that it is being carried. Is what I mean, quite clear Euthyphro? I mean this: if something. Comes to be or something is affected it is, not because it is a thing which is coming to be that the process of coming to. Be exists but, consequence, rather in of the process of coming to be it is a thing which is coming to be;And it is not because it is affected that the, affecting exits but in consequence of, the affecting the thing is affected."What becomes EUTHYPHRO said return the same place and against each other. When SOCRATES want start meaning of teaching. EUTHYPHRO refused saying that now occupied.Teaching?Make SOCRATES down from EUTHYPHRO. By the first SOCRATES believe and think to learn well from EUTHYPHRO. This makes truly EUTHYPHRO anything, also answer the question themselves, yet does not understand that Holy with Unholy is, and justice.The SOCRATES knows himself doesn't know as "Wisest is she who knows she does not know" (the smartest people who know yourself, know nothing. Seeking myself don't know)
.On the idea of us. We think of as SOCRATES asked people to the definition of or things. He can always find your opponent's weakness, but couldn't find the right answer. But EUTHYPHRO back the wrong answer.But he still insists that the answer is right and true. So our group has chosen to agree with SOCRATES
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